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📈 Coles and Woolworths sued by ACCC | What to look for in founder-led businesses

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Well fast forward a few years and the plans are falling apart. Originally, the city was planned to be 105 miles long, now it will just be 1.5 miles. And original population estimates of 1.5 million have been reduced to 300,000. It has got so bad, that even the influencers are giving up on it.

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This is an excerpt from our conversation with Lawrence Lam, Managing Director & Founder of Lumenary Investment Management. Listen to the full episode on the Equity Mates Investing podcast.

You've touched on founder-led companies, but can you define them and explain why you believe they make good investments?

Lawrence: At its core, the founder-led strategy is about chefs who eat what they cook, as Warren Buffet would say. These are companies led by founders who have accountability, ownership, and influence over their success or failure. I look for specific indicators, such as equity ownership percentages and management positions. The founder's name on the logo is often significant; it reflects their reputation.

Ideally, you’d want high metrics across all these areas, but finding a great company at a great price is rare. The challenge with many non-founder-led companies is misalignments in equity ownership, management, and the board. It’s not merely a money problem; it’s a behavioural issue. If you invest in bureaucratic non-founder-led companies, you'll struggle long-term due to the lack of alignment with ultimate managers, owners, and directors. Instead, it’s better to invest with a manager who is engaged and focused on the long term.

Alec: Do you have rules of thumb, like a percentage of equity ownership from a founder to consider it a viable investment? Or is it more about the founder’s day-to-day involvement in management?

Lawrence: I look at equity ownership and voting rights. Companies often have Class A and Class B shares, where economic ownership differs from voting rights. I'm looking for significant equity ownership and management positions. However, it’s not just about the absolute figures; it's about their direction. For example, Mark Zuckerberg has been selling down his economic ownership in Facebook since 2020 while maintaining high voting rights—that's a red flag. Similarly, with Richard Branson and Virgin, his ownership has diminished. I focus on the direction of change rather than just static metrics.

Bryce: Is there a minimum equity holding you want to see from founders?

Lawrence: I prefer at least 10 percent. Any less approaches passive status. However, if a founder holds 8 percent and is actively involved as CEO and chair, that's a different scenario than simply holding 10 percent without engagement. It’s about the metrics combined.

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