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This is an excerpt from our conversation with Emma Fisher on Equity Mates Investing Podcast titled Expert: Emma Fisher – Mineral Resources, PWR Holdings & Investor Psychology (Apple | Spotify)

Question: Why are you interested in Mineral Resources?

So we did a screen for businesses that are generating a return on capital greater than 50% for the last decade (This would have been back in 2017). And it's part of this list, which really surprised us because it's a mining services company. So most mining services companies make good returns one year in ten when commodity prices are high. And the other nine years they're blowing up. So that intrigued me. 

I kind of wanted to understand why it was in this list. And the heart of the model is the key difference. It’s a mining service company at its heart. But the difference is for most mining services companies, they would work on a CapEx project. So if BHP is bringing up a new mine, they'll put it out to tender. These mining services companies will win the project, they'll build the mine and then they're done. So there's money to be made when there's work around and there's no money to be made when there's not. 

Mineral resources business is production linked, so they do crushing for the major miners who produce everyday. So it doesn't matter what the commodity price is doing, because they're crushing. So they're crushing ore and they own all of the market. 

They own the part of the mines they run, it's their staff on site. So they've got very, very long tenures and they're able to make really good returns every single day out of this mining services business. 

The other thing that's a little bit different about them is the guy that runs it and founded it - Chris Ellison, he's got a very, very good track record of basically being an awesome deal maker, incredible value creator. 

What they do is they buy an asset counter-cyclical, when that commodity is not necessarily in favour. They get their foot on the asset and then they bring up the mine because they've got in this mining services business, they've got people that know how to build and run mines. Then they lock in the life of mine mining services contract to themselves, which is great because you're never going to kick yourself off a project. 

So you're backing that. But it's not going to be a smooth ride. It's going to be very volatile. 

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